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Post by justthefacts on Apr 10, 2013 10:56:12 GMT -5
I want to see Harro defend this one. Now I know this had no real bearing on the outcome of the race but it just shows the ineptness of the race track. Two major screw ups on their part
1. The failure to tell the difference between the 91's. The switched the Chad Davis (was running 3rd) and Colby Frye (was running 5th) on the first restart. Come on you can't tell the difference between the two cars?
2. Dave Zona got lapped before the first lap 21 caution and would have been 2nd on the track on the restart but elected to go to the back. After Harro's hero (I like the sound to that) stepped on his winky they gave Zona his lap back and allowed him to pick up a 6th place finish (which actually hosed Rine out of spot believe it or not, I guess stupidity out weighs love LOL)
Like I said I'd really like to hear such dumbness explained. I'm sure Harro will and it will be some convoluted excuse that will make zero sense.
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Post by Lorne & Jill Greene on Apr 10, 2013 14:43:20 GMT -5
This could be interesting.
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Post by posse25 on Apr 10, 2013 16:33:02 GMT -5
I noticed it right away that Chad Davis got screwed over. Im surprised he didn't complain, I would've been livid
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Post by toolman on Apr 10, 2013 19:11:33 GMT -5
Davis did ride around beside Frye for a couple laps before being told to get in line. When he went to the tower after the race they said there was a problem with Frye's transponder so they relied on visual placement and they must have made a mistake but they were sorry.
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Post by justanoldlady on Apr 10, 2013 19:43:05 GMT -5
At least they told him they were sorry that's more than they tell other drivers they screw.
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Post by justthefacts on Apr 10, 2013 19:50:51 GMT -5
The problem is stuff like this shouldn't constantly happen. You mean to tell me all the officials there with radios couldn't realize that the lineup wasn't right. It amazes me the piss poor excuses they constantly use for ineptness.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 19:53:11 GMT -5
no convoluted excuses. i'll just tell you like it happened but yes you're correct it will make zero sense to most of you.
frye's transponder did not register at the completion of the first lap. why? we don't know. maybe a clod of clay got kicked up into it but it registered every other lap of the race as did every other LM on the track. we asked manual scoring where they had the 91 scored. i'm sure we probably didn't add the "F". we were told 3rd so we manually adjusted the scoring for that lap which btw leaves a tick that can't be removed so you know it was manual. in the meantime the head scorer started reading the restart lineup from her manual sheet. it's a list of numbers. she had two 91's in the lineup so she then looked at the computer to see which 91 was 3rd and of course now it said frye. so YES a mistake was made. Chad did come to the tower and talked to both me and the head scorer. He did not throw a fit as a lot of drivers do, he was very polite and was told exactly what happened. we're not happy that it happened but it can't be undone.
i've put out an open invite before to anyone who wants to come up and see how the scoring works.
as far as zona yes he was lapped and was scheduled to line up 2nd 1 lap down for the restart but as a lot of lapped cars do he chose to go to the rear. then there was a caution before another lap was completed so you go back to the same restart lineup as the previous caution (not where they actually started) minus the cars involved in the new yellow who tag the rear. if it wasn't the leader that spun i'm sure dave would have stayed at the back but since it was the leader that spun zona now is scheduled to line up 1st but on the tail end of the lead lap but since we (and every other dirt track i know of) starts with the leader he's told he can have his lap back and he can go around to the back of the pack. nascar calls it the "wave around" you can call it whatever you want. i'm sure dave calls it a lucky break.
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Post by posse25 on Apr 10, 2013 21:57:13 GMT -5
Def. makes sense on Zona he got a lucky break.
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Post by justthefacts on Apr 11, 2013 8:43:16 GMT -5
Zona's only half makes sense. If you give up your spot in line you shouldn't get it back just because the yellow came out.
And again on the Chad Davis situation you can't tell me no one with a brain that's an official could say hey you guys have something wrong the blue 91 was in 3rd and the silver one in 5th. It wasn't like they were running 3rd and 4th. There was a car between them but whatever.
The point is you guys constantly make mistakes (I know mistakes happen but here more often than not) and there is nothing a racer can do about it except get a "We're sorry".
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Post by justthefacts on Apr 11, 2013 8:51:21 GMT -5
Two more thing to show how ridiculous the track looks here.
1. The drivers got it right. They all lined up the way they should be on the restart and the track held up the show to get it wrong.
2. I find it interesting that the electronic scoring was messed up and the manual scoring was then used to fix it yet incorrectly and then at that point overrides the manual scoring.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2013 12:42:30 GMT -5
Zona's only half makes sense. If you give up your spot in line you shouldn't get it back just because the yellow came out. that's your opinion and when you own a track you can write that rule the way you want. the restart lineup is the restart lineup |
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Post by justthefacts on Apr 11, 2013 14:38:01 GMT -5
And like you I'll just say "sorry about that" and be sure to put extra pickles on your next burger and never ever take steps to insure it'll never happen again
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Post by justthefacts on Apr 11, 2013 14:41:42 GMT -5
That's pretty low in this economy looking down on someone because their job is working at a fast food restaurant. Really classy from a track employee.
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Post by justanoldlady on Apr 11, 2013 14:43:24 GMT -5
I'm sure if Chad was one of the favorites he would have not been overlooked, but then again there are so many things that happen there anymore that makes me wonder why most drivers would even want to race there. I don't care if you drive a sprint or a roadrunner all drivers pay the same amount to get in and deserve respect from the track. The select few get respect and the track is wearing the rest of the drivers out. I think the car count reflects my theory.
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Post by frisatniteregular on Apr 11, 2013 21:44:46 GMT -5
I've got to say your probably right about pissing drivers off. Look at where some of the bigger names that drove selinsgrove for years have gone. Heimbach, Snyder, Schadel and others are at Port on Saturday. As are several others. Whether its hard feelings or not its sad. I know specifically with Heimbach it makes more sense to run a 410 at port and spend pretty much the same amount of money as a 358 at selinsgrove. Cannon and Rine dump a ton of money into their programs and I'd lay money down to say probably as the season wears on they'll each get 5-7 wins easily because of it. You can run 10th at Port and get 5th place money out of 358 purse in selinsgrove. It is what it is and mistakes and poor decisions happen.
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