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Post by prostock115 on Jun 22, 2011 2:05:12 GMT -5
If I were a to be a fan in the stands I would live to watch us race just for the simple reason we put on one hell of a show week in and week out.
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Post by dirtyharry on Jun 22, 2011 15:41:21 GMT -5
If I were a to be a fan in the stands I would live to watch us race just for the simple reason we put on one hell of a show week in and week out. I'll give you that, but I think the roadrunners are up there as well. The Tank is a riot.
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Post by johnnylightning on Jun 22, 2011 17:45:47 GMT -5
Do you see any other prostocks left front off the ground?? I'm not talking an inch either! It's obvious stuff... any true race fan, driver, or crew member that knows the basics of the different divisions knows that should not be! So to answer your question, yeah, i'd say you're illegal in some way, shape, or form. All the talk of a birdcage and rr floating makes tons of sense in so many ways, but just doubt some people would ever be accused of it... it's called politics... it's everywhere! Yes, even in racing! It's all in who you are and/or how much money you have! Why would a race fan want to watch a race with illegal cars in it?? It's not about the show that is put on at that point... it's called dignity... but some people, more now in today's society than ever, don't know what that is! Anyone who knows anything about chassis setup knows that all it takes is a soft right rear spring for the car to roll over on to lift the inside front off the ground especially when you run the car into the corner as hard as AJ does. That being said the Hoffman car is one of the most legal (if there is anyone following any rules) out there.
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Post by slideways on Jun 22, 2011 18:13:02 GMT -5
it's absolutely amazing what crap you guys will spew. first someone from the track comes on this board and gives you the story of how something went down. you don't like it so you change the accusations or come up with some lame conspiracy theory. i haven't seen him post anything for a long time so now we don't hear anything that goes on behind the scenes. i don't blame him.
now a driver who got beat by the 19 comes on here and basically says you guys are blowing it way out of proportion and you still gotta go off the deep end. shaun didn't accuse the 19 of cheating and pretty much said that the left front can come off the ground on a legal car. i talked to a PS driver who told me during a conversation about the top ps drivers that all the top guys have basically the same stuff and he wasn't accusing them of cheating. talked to a ps driver who had some motor trouble early in the night on why he didn't start and park for the money and he said it wasnt worth risking a $12,000 motor for $50 bucks. now there's your problem.
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Post by prostock115 on Jun 22, 2011 18:22:02 GMT -5
To answer your question about if I see any other prostock lifting the front end. I sure did the number 9 sure lifted it off the ground when he hit the turn 1 and 2 wall!
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Post by dirtracingfan on Jun 22, 2011 19:52:45 GMT -5
so make a rule to keep the cost down in the motors.. that is ridiculous to spend 12,000 dollars on a motor for a damn pro stock... my god.. all for $400?!?! Seriously.. and i'm sorry but that left front is off the ground just like a late model and you guys can't see something is wrong? You think the other top guys aren't running soft right rear springs? Give me a break!
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Post by "livin the dream" on Jun 22, 2011 20:04:12 GMT -5
Yes there needs some serious engine rule adjustments needed for this division. I would start with NO drysump systems, then I would go to a compression limit, then follow that with a rule that limits internal parts to std factory dimensions. The lifting of the LF isn't as big a deal as you are making it!
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Post by inthedirt on Jun 22, 2011 20:18:16 GMT -5
Yes there needs some serious engine rule adjustments needed for this division. I would start with NO drysump systems, then I would go to a compression limit, then follow that with a rule that limits internal parts to std factory dimensions. The lifting of the LF isn't as big a deal as you are making it! The compression limit is the key. These engines are making their power because of flat top pistons making 12-1 or better! That involves major cutting, milling, and machine work to achieve. Hence the cost! The track already has a whistle box. So, why not? As far as the left front coming off.... Did anyone ever think that maybe there doin that on purpose just to rattle everyone? Its not that hard to do.
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Post by benson on Jun 24, 2011 15:37:36 GMT -5
602 crate and 6200 chips , even the junk would be competitive, would find out who can set a car up
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Post by dirttrackrocker on Jul 2, 2011 10:17:50 GMT -5
Limit the Carb!!!! If it can't breath it can't make power. These guys are running heavily worked carbs that are costing $1000 +
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