Where were these guys?

[posse25]

Im pretty sure Flammer is in Ohio racing

[Deleted]

i too thought he was doing ohio speedweek. must have been a false report from the pits at port.

[pennstate12]

According to Port's results, Nate was the only one who went over there. I know it is their choice, but you're right. It makes no sense at all. Why would you go to Port (to run on a terrible surface) and give up your chance at a second point title. He probably wouldn't have been able to win this year anyway, but I don't understand why you wouldn't support the track that supports you week in and week out. Sometimes drivers just don't make any sense. That's for sure. (haha)

[inthedirt]

Jun 20, 2010 22:44:46 GMT -5 justthefact said:

Well let's start by saying that matt is a great guy and has alot of heart on the race track. But any way either you guys sit in the stands and just don't have a clue or your some dumbass from the pit area who thinks they know alot but don't. How many cars did Paige really wreck, I could count it on one hand but how many motors blew up? Hmmm well his first year it wasn't to bad if I remember he won some heat races and led laps over all not a bad first year. Year 2 he blew the motor up 4 times and it was rebuild a total of 6 times. I think $$$$$$$$!!!!! As for this year yes they junked a car in the beginning of the year but who doesn't. Your buddy matt did just last night although not his fault and I felt bad for him but it just prove everyone wrecks cars. But they blew the same motor 2 time already this year and again alot of $$$$$$ was spent. Regardless of who was in that car the fords wouldn't of stayed together. Maybe matt couldve Fred flintstoned that shit. With no motor means no racing. Can't get any better till they have a motor that's worth racing.

I have to question who really knows what there talking about here??. Those fords are "top notch". You sit and blow off about these engines "blowing up". Why dont you get the facts straight before you come on here and make the engine builder look bad! Those incidents were burnt pistons. Do you know what causes a burnt piston in a fuel injected sprint car? LACK OF FUEL KNOWLEDGE AND FUEL SET-UP! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENGINES THEMSELVES!. Once they leave the engine builders, its all up to the team to set the neccessary fuel requirements. Pill size,high speed, low speed, high speed pill etc. etc. A fuel injected sprint car engine is very touchy with fuel settings. And if you dont have them right, GUESS WHAT, your gonna burn pistons. So get the facts before you post! Chuck had some good runs. And I definitely think Chuck was a good candidate for the car. It just didnt work out. But, to blame the Fords makes phil miller look bad! Hurricane has over 100 races on his identical built Ford with no problems! He knows how to set the fuel.

[paige28]

Hi everyone! This is Chuck Paige. This will be my first and only post on this deal. I'm going to do the best I can hear and try to give all the facts I can so people can go on with their lives. Two things I want to say before I get started, in no way am I a motor guy, never I was or care to be. The second thing is Mike Walter's ford motor and the motor's I had were different.

O.K. the first year we had trouble the first two nights with grounding, other than that the motor ran all year trouble free.

The second year the first night out the motor blew up in like 5-6 laps. Melted pistons. Following week put our backup motor in the car. Ran the motor all night trouble free. Week after that got our good motor back, blew up in warmups. Melted Pistons. Phil Miller at that time didn't know what was going with it because he found nothing on his end and he also checked our high speeds on his gauges and the rest of our fuel systems checked out to him. Ran the back motor for a while trouble free. We got our good motor back for a practice session. Blew up in seven laps. Broken rods. Again the back up motor goes in for a few weeks trouble free. I talked to Phil a few weeks later and he told me he sent the mag back to MSD to get checked. The Mag was misfiring. Got the good motor back ran the rest of the year no problems.

The thrid year. We started this year with our good motor. Ran it for few races with no trouble. One night this year we are leading the heat blows up taking the checkred flag. This time every piston is broke from beating on the heads. At this point Phil Miller told us he didn't want to work on sprint car engines anymore, so we went to Kriner's because no one else wanted to work on the fords. Kriner gets the motor done 3 weeks later. Pay them $ 14,000. Get the motor back friday put it in the car took it the races and ran 4 laps blewing up again. This time it locked up trashing the motor,rearend and Blanes car. The block,pistons,rods,timing chain and I think they said everything was o.k. to reuse. $12,000-$15,000 we could have got it back again. Todd and I sat down and both agreed it was time to stop.

Look guys I told you in the begining of this post. I'm not motor guy. But I had very good motor guys and my team the took care of that stuff. I don't what the problems where if I did I would have fixed it. Look maybe I wasn't the best pick for the ride, but I will tell you this, I worked my ass off and did the best I could do. I'm glad I got the chance to do it. I have no hard feeling towards Phil Miller or Bob and Clint Kriner. The all give me 100%. All are great people to work with. My crew my not have been Pat Cannon's crew as some people put it. But it was my crew and they worked their ass off me, and for that I thank them. Todd Benner at Selinsgrove Ford is awesome. He give me the chance to do something I love to do at a higher level and that's race. These are the FACTS the best I can remember. Hopfully this clears the air, everyone can move on. Best of luck to all teams the rest of the year.

[brianwegs]

Sounds to me the chevys are the better motor for handling the stress of the RPMS of a sprint car

[Deleted]

thanks chuck. as usual the best facts come from those involved. glad the parting with todd was mutual and friendly. hopefully both sides can be back on the track in the future.

[someday66]

Well all i know is that Miller and Kriner's both build alot of motors it seems like maybe you guys are missing something. Two motor builders same results it's just not flying well. If i where them and i would read this i would not be very happy, you are basically slamming them and at the end say that they are nice guys.

[frisatniteregular]

Jun 27, 2010 21:44:46 GMT -5 someday66 said:

Well all i know is that Miller and Kriner's both build alot of motors it seems like maybe you guys are missing something. Two motor builders same results it's just not flying well. If i where them and i would read this i would not be very happy, you are basically slamming them and at the end say that they are nice guys.

Well this is a forum for discussion so if it pisses them off they can always have their own rebuttal on here. Its not like its a locked forum to a select few. I'm glad chuck got on here and said his piece. At least we got it from the horses mouth. Whether its right or wrong hes the one closest to the object in debate. I do hope to see selinsgrove ford back on the track sometime and Chuck. Always hate to see the track lose a racer no matter what the circumstances.

[someday66]

Well maybe they should, but the both of them have to much class to do that!!!! All i am saying is that don't run your mouth about them, when it maybe all of that teams own doing. Come on two engine builders same thing happens, man up and take some of the responsibility for what goes on.