Clinton County 7-30-2010

[k943]

boy o boy Vern what the hell were you thinking i know how to make some quick money no one got there money worth of racing tonight unless you are a sprint car fan.
sure pro stocks fans got screwed for one pay $16 to watch your buddy race and don't get to watch it cause of the big mess up i think you should make it up to all the fans next week knock some money off their admission witch would be kinda of right how much did you pocket tonight . its all about the sprint cars.grow some balls and don't line your pockets off of us the fans

[Deleted]

nice FIRST ever post there k943. gotta love the people who have absolutely NO interest in posting on a message board when there are positive things being discussed but as soon as they've got 1 negative thing we have to sign up and post right away.

i'm not saying what you said was incorrect as i wasn't there. but why is it that people don't care enough to participate unless it's to bitch.

["livin the dream"]

:oYeah!!

[dirtracingfan]

What happened?

[k943]

just for your information scott i just found out about this website the other night and just joined up last night so is there a problem ?

[k943]

sounds like all you want to do is bitch about people bitching lol

["livin the dream"]

Yeah!

[k943]

a whole bunch of raceing and only 1 feature ran (sprints) and a little bit of the ardc feature ran out of time so pro stocks will have 2 features i guess on friday with the make up feature pay out higher for not raceing last night

[sk8077]

Doesn't matter according to the selinsgrove expert. They probably did everything in their power to keep the shows moving. Only the opinion of a PR person from another track is relevant here. The fans opinion means nothing. Besides as Scott said before get a life outside racing. Can't troll our own home tracks board so we have to Shanghai another to offer expert opinion and berate fans

[frisatniteregular]

Well in some instance I understand but you paid 16 bucks to get in to see 45 sprints, prostocks, and some ardc midgets right. Granted you didnt get to see the features of the later too you still got a much better deal then what you pay for and see at a place like williamsgrove or selinsgrove when the 410s are there. You usually pay 20 bucks to see at most usually 30 and thats a higher number of 410s at either of those tracks. And selinsgrove never has a support division which I think is dumb but hey they run it how they want. Not saying I dont like those tracks or watch the races but you really got more for your money then what most people do at other locations. So I dont see why your bitching. If you wanted to see your friend race maybe you should have gone a night where the sprints weren't running such a big race series for that track. A little common sense goes a long way.

[k943]

got well more then my monies worth in your eyes i did in my eyes i could care less for the sprints. well when you know your under a curfew and yout start at 8:15 you have to be dont or at least start the last race at 11:30 and racing has to be done at 11:45 come on now get real 1 devision bs i went to this track for over 10yrs now and watch my freinds race almost every friday night yes there is sometimes you dont get to watch it cause of stuff happening but atleast you see more then 1 feature hell the sprints raced up till 11:15 last night who wants to just watch all sprints i surely dont and im sure there is many more

[Deleted]

like i said i have no opinion on what happened because i wasn't there. maybe they did screw it up. tracks do scew things up. even selinsgrove. i just hate when people don't participate unless they have a bitch. and as far as just finding the site, how convenient. what, you needed to vent so you went looking for a place to do it. never thought of looking for a site to post something nice? maybe you'd have found it sooner.

as far as bitching about bitching, no i don't like to but
think about this.

ALL area tracks already have PR problems with the communities that surround them.

ALL area tracks already have fan attendance issues for whatever reason.

when casual fans or new fans read these message boards and all they see is CRAP, at least half of which is not true or has legitamate reasons for things being done they have to be thinking...i ain't wastin my money going there. as the fan base grows older, it shrinks. if you don't have new blood coming in attendance will drop. if attendance drops so will purses. if purses drop so will car counts. if car counts drop so will attendance and the circle goes on and on.

if you people are as fanatical race fans as you profess to be then put something positive out there for the casual/new fan to see. if there is something going on you think is stupid then go talk to the track about it in private. you'd be suprised how receptive some people at the track can be.

lastly, when the track you attend regularly and bitch about regulary is no longer there for you....remember, you helped get it to that point.

[k943]

i dont bitch much and finding this web site i had a guy telling about it isnt it central pa dirt hmmmmm how couldnt you come her and say something why go some where else it involves tracks from the area what is there a western pa dirt track forum to post on hmm tell some one who isnt from the area no matter what you post and where you post some one will see it and the circle goes on and on that way to dont want to read the negative post dont read them

[sk8077]

Jul 31, 2010 13:11:33 GMT -5 @sprint1 said:

like i said i have no opinion on what happened because i wasn't there. maybe they did screw it up. tracks do scew things up. even selinsgrove. i just hate when people don't participate unless they have a bitch.

Nice and fluffy! But get a dictionary and look up the word hyp·o·crite. You have no problem at all jumping down someones throat when they offer an opinion or concern. But when the shoe is on the other foot its taboo.

The main concern by the poster was why a 3 division show with a 4 1/2 hour window couldn't be completed? Was it a late start, sanctioning body, not being prepared, wrecks holding up the show, etc etc... but no it had to be hijacked and all parties involved had to be cut down as usual..... Gets old quick....

If every thinskinned moron took EVERYTHING to heart and as cold hard fact that was discussed on a board then nobody would leave their house... But believe it or not some people posess decision making abilities and can decipher crap from fact. and can get a chuckle out of some of the folks that have a personal/no good reason grudge.

Personally if I post something I can back it up--positive or negative. I have made an effort to voice my concerns first to promoters when I see something questionable. But when the same stuff happens time and again then other venues are used .

Hopefully everything goes perfectly in Snyder County tonight. Later!

[Deleted]

Hopefully everything goes perfectly in Snyder County tonight

probably won't. never usually does but you can bet everyone is doing everything they can to make it perfect as i'm sure management and officials do at every speedway. that's what gets me the most....people actually think that management sits back and says...watch this, this will piss em off.

and i didn't sugar coat anything. decisions are made that end up being good, bad and sometimes horrendous BUT a lot of thought goes into them and they are made with the best of intentions for EVERYONE. and if you knew the reasoning most of you would at least be neutral on the matter but then again most of you don't want to hear reasoning for fear it will change your mind. like i said, when we no longer hear the roar of engines you'll all wish "ole vern was still lining his pockets"