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Post by justanoldlady on May 13, 2013 20:13:52 GMT -5
I think Selinsgrove should make rule changes and combine pro stocks and roadrunners or just eliminate both classes. 8 to 10 cars on the track is hardly racing. The new rules weren't such a great idea just drove cars away and the fast cars are still fast and the other cars not. Just saying.
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Post by richardknogen on May 13, 2013 20:39:43 GMT -5
blown engines,wrecked cars ,economy,weather,dont think the rules has anything todo with these problems.
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Post by bigbear on May 13, 2013 23:02:56 GMT -5
i thought everyone wanted rules? and wanted the rules enforced?
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Post by inthedirt on May 14, 2013 6:33:36 GMT -5
Eliminate both classes? ? Are you going to reinburse all the teams that spent all that money to go racing??
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Post by zenofski on May 14, 2013 21:07:35 GMT -5
JMO, but I think it shows how many were pushing the rules past the limit, and now can't run the car because of fear of being pulled into the tech shack.
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Post by dirttrackrocker on May 15, 2013 7:36:56 GMT -5
Any time you make a drastic change like they did, you're gonna have low car counts for awhile. If they leave things alone, they will get new cars. Something had to be done, that class was WAY out of hand.
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Post by fetters77x on May 15, 2013 19:15:41 GMT -5
The other issue with the pro stocks in general is that no two tracks run the same rules, or even close for that matter. Clinton County is pretty much wide open minus 355 ci limit and a 4412, and even then its not like they tech. Port Royal has the 11:1 compression ratio rule with a 4412 and 355 ci limit, and Selinsgrove has no dry sump, no shaft rockers, 11:1 compression ratio, an MSD rev control box @ 7200 rpm. If tracks would follow the same rules the car count would increase. If they would all enforce the rules that'd bring even more cars. I say run either a 604 or a 602 crate rule with a spec tire, then you'd see which drivers could actually drive and which ones buy wins and championships!
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Post by dirttrackrocker on May 15, 2013 20:00:50 GMT -5
Yeah, but, you can cheat a crate too.. Too many tracks think that by going to a crate motor, they don't have to tech, and it's just the opposite, there is more cheating going on in crate classes than in open classes. You want to make them all equal, put them on a rock hard tire.
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Post by fetters77x on May 16, 2013 7:48:18 GMT -5
I was saying crate motor for cost effectiveness. $10,000+ motors is a little extreme to be competitive and that might be driving a lot of guys out of the pro stocks. I decided to build an IMCA modified over a pro stock mainly because of the cost of the motor to be competitive and the difference in rules between the tracks. I might not have a lot of options for tracks in the area but i can go to any track in the country and be legal. I agree with the rock hard tire and that's what I had in mind when I said a spec tire.
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Post by 2cents on May 16, 2013 12:22:03 GMT -5
Was there a reason to run the medium E-mod initially? Why go from the D-80's to the medium instead of the hard E-mod.
I would prefer to run a sealed crate engine. If cheating is a problem hire an engine builder with a dyno to tech them. I could think of one, and the income would offset the loss of engine work and sustain the relationship to racing.
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Post by dirttrackrocker on May 16, 2013 19:19:45 GMT -5
We were running D-30's and just like everything else we the racers lobbied to let us run anything we want as long as it was an 8 inch tire. It doesn't have to be a medium, you can run soft and I'm pretty sure lots of guys are. Racers are the ones to blame, they will price themselves right out of racing., and then be the first ones to bitch because it's too expensive and the tracks don't pay enough. Been there and guilty as charged.. Thats why IMCA has made very few changes over the past 10 years.
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